Tuesday, December 1, 2009

christmas

most of you know my christmas background. it's not much. we never celebrated it when i was a kid. and that's fine. thanksgiving was awesome; it was just like christmas is except not pretending it's jesus' birthday.

it's not his birthday. it's just a holiday that has no origins in jesus and christianity. it annoys me that people try to make it about him. back in the day constantine did and now we still are. people just mix and mesh god and jesus in all of their holidays and i don't get why. worship jesus and have your holidays. don't give jesus a fake birthday.

don't get me wrong, i like christmas. i think i may be starting to love it. my kids are like little versions of me experiencing this holiday. we are both newbies at it. it a time to create special memories and we are making some already. it's nice that christmas is so special to josh and he is helping me figure it all out.

but this year i'm gonna celebrate christmas. i'm gonna celebrate this time with my family. i'm gonna be thankful to my version of who god is. but i'm certainly not going to make this holiday about jesus' birthday.

8 comments:

Steph said...

i was just talking about this to someone yesterday! as soon as you say that though people think you're agnostic or just a christian hater. um no... its a fact.
my favorite is the people who bake Jesus a b-day cake:) Oh well, to each his own! I do love Christmas though, last year we put up all our decorations and lights the first week of November haha. We waited till after Thanksgiving this year.

Elissa Parrish said...

I KNOW steph seriously!!! anyways, i'm gonna enjoy my version of it and if y'all wanna pretend it's his birthday and use it as a day to honor him thats great. your just not gonna see a manger at my house

bp said...

ha, I've never celebrated christmas for this very reason.

Dani Martinez said...

Obviously, the shepherds weren't hanging out in the snow with their sheep; Jesus would have had to have been born in the summer time. Christmas started as a pagan fertility ritual to the god Yule and all that. But I agree with Mindy, as long as people do celebrate the fact that Jesus HAD a birthday (i.e. became human, born of a woman and all that), why not make it Christmas time?

Are you going to put out a manger scene for the Summer Equinox? I'll come and sing Silent Night with you. =D"

Dani Martinez said...

P.S. Did you know that the Declaration of Independence was actually signed July 3rd? It wasn't until the next day that they alerted the colonies of the event. Even so, the Third of July just doesn't sound as cool....

Anyways, the whole Jesus's-birth-at-Christmas isn't the only holiday that is celebrated at the wrong time.

Elissa Parrish said...

yes i did know about the july 3rd thing bc of adventures in odyssey. WOOHOO! but that is different to me and this is why: the declaration of independence was signed and we celebrate our freedom bc of it. jesus was born and that's fine. celebrate it if you want. but the tree, the presents the actual date of dec 25th are all worship to the sun god and it is HIS birthday. people are ransacking a holiday and taking all of the qualities about it and calling it christian. it's not the day; it's that the whole damn thing is a tribute to something completely opposite of what it portraying.

sg said...

Christmas is not about the celebration of a birth date at all. It is about the celebration of a birth. The fact of the date and the fact of the birth are two different things....Actuality is, at best, a memory of something that is greater than the time or place in which it happened. What is important to the understanding of a life-changing moment is that it happened, not necessarily where or when it happened.

Why don't we know for sure the date of the birth of Jesus? Because it depends on which of that era's calendars we're using to compute it -- the solar calendar, the lunar calendar, the Babylonian calendar, the Roman calendar, or the Julian calendar." --Joan Chittister

The calculations on the aproxomite date of Christ's birth are based on when Elizabeth became with child (John the B) as that can be traced to when her husband, Zachariah, served in the temple and became mute. Therefore, the calculations on Mary giving birth are pretty easy to estamate, though different churches came up with different dates based on the calendar they were using at the time.

Interesting discussion.

Elissa Parrish said...

and i still maintain my position that all the christmas traditions are not about christ at all... as i said, my problem is not the date... it is the entire facade... but merry christmas to all regardless of what you are celebrating!!!!!